I'm trying to figure out what that stairway/big shadow shot is. I thought it was either "Nosferatu" or "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", both of which (I think) heavily influenced "Vincent".
Since a lot of the early shots seems to come more from genres than specific films, maybe it's just supposed to represent that German Expressionist period.
absolutely. definitely one of the most chilling yet beautiful moments in movie history. and he has to be one of the best monsters ever.
the most enduring image from Caligari, for me, is when he's going across the roof tops - those fabulous expressionistic sets.
i wonder if that was the first twist ending to a movie? i bet i'm wrong. am i forgetting something obvious? Steamboat Willie doesn't turn out to be dead all along or anything does he? i've not seen it all the way through...
well i'm glad i didn't mention what the twist WAS!
and i have to admit...i've never seen the original nosferatu all the way through either...
and i call myself a vampire flick fan...
shame on me...
after you see Caligari, i recommend you check out Seigfried Kracauer's 'From Caligari to Hitler' and read about the origin of the story. it's quite something, one of those eery real life stories that gives a chill down the spine.
on a totally different note, have you ever seen Murnau's 'Sunrise: a song of two humans'? such a stunningly powerful movie.
I haven't seen the original "Nosferatu" - just the Herzog remake. I didn't like it all that much, but I'm not a big horror film fan.
I found the book on Amazon for $5.50, so I picked it up. Thanks for the recommendation!
I haven't seen "Sunrise" yet, but Scorcese went nuts over it in his mini-series (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305941122/qid=1133564956/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-0679074-3008835?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130) , so I bought an entire Fox box set just to get it. One of these days I'll check it out.
see i was going to suggest getting this: http://tinyurl.com/awz8h
which has an extract from it and is the book i read it from. now you are going to be more knowledgable than ME! another reason to recommend this book is the cover. whenever i pick it up i just stare and stare at Valentino in all those pearls... but it is obviously much better to have the Kracauer original - ah, amazon new and used, how i love thee!
i have never seen that scorcese doc though i know about it. oh i'm tempted but funds are slim...one day...
i went to see 'sunrise' at the cinema with a live band and singers. it worked at some points and not quite at others, but was a marvelous experience. they did things like 'in my room' & 'i only have eyes for you' which SHOULDN'T have worked but were magical!
it is based on 'an american tradegy' as was (i am sure you know) A Place in the Sun. but it takes the story somewhere else. incredible.
i'm not an out and out horror fan, contrary to the evidence here. i really dig vampire flicks though. they are on another level to 'horror' for me. it's more about myth and the psychological metaphor. Caligari works that way for me also - it's like a beautifully twisted mystery, like a dream.
I don't know which cover I bought - there was more than one edition of the book at Amazon, so I bought the cheapest one.
I'm not a particularly big vampire movie buff. I thought the Tod Browning "Dracula" was kind of dull, and have liked the many remakes and re-interpretations even less. I initially thought "After Dark" was kind of neat, but didn't wind up liking it when I saw it again on video.
yeh, never got the bela thing myself. far too hammy.
the original nosferatu is just so EERY and haunting and i don't know...despite the stylisation it burrows into my psyche as a 'this could be a REAL monster, this is what they'd LOOK LIKE and how they'd BEHAVE if they WERE real' thing. it's so dreamy and i can see that despite his hideousness you could really be mesmerised by that guy.
i loved the chris lee drac as a kid - thought him very sexy/scary. now i just see them as wildly camp and funny but i still LOVE Hammer Horror dracula so much (as evidenced on my site posting...ok i don't actually talk about dracula...).
i don't know if you guys over 'there' ever really got much of the Hammer Horror stuff because no americans ever seem to know what i am going on about, but you know who christopher lee and peter cushing are so you MUST have done!
of course it is the ingrid pitt movies that are really the business in the hammer canon.
I myself haven't seen any of the Hammer pictures (yet) - I know Cushing and Lee from the Lucas and Burton movies (how both grew up big Hammer fans, I'm sure). But rest assured, Hammer films have a cult of fans here in the U.S.
they are a treasure trove of 70s excessive rediculousness. just gorgeous!
i once had the pleasure of meeting Mr Tudor Gates (yes, his NAME) who wrote a load of them. his landlady was my boss. i knew i was in the presence of a great man. a great man who could spin a good feminine vampire tale.
Here's the references that I caught in the Motorola spot. Feel free to write and let me know of any mistakes.
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Burton's short Vincent was in there!
By the way, I'm Carla. I stubbled upon your blog a little bit ago and you have been entertaining me ever since! Thanks!
Hi Carla! Welcome to the blog. Glad you like it!
I'm trying to figure out what that stairway/big shadow shot is. I thought it was either "Nosferatu" or "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", both of which (I think) heavily influenced "Vincent".
Since a lot of the early shots seems to come more from genres than specific films, maybe it's just supposed to represent that German Expressionist period.
Yeah! I agree!
yes, it's definitely Nosferatu. this was also 'homaged' in coppola's dracula which was in turn 'homaged' in the simpsons where mr burns is a vampire.
I thought so! I seemed to remember all of those sources having the creeping animated shadow cast by the monster.
absolutely. definitely one of the most chilling yet beautiful moments in movie history. and he has to be one of the best monsters ever.
the most enduring image from Caligari, for me, is when he's going across the roof tops - those fabulous expressionistic sets.
i wonder if that was the first twist ending to a movie? i bet i'm wrong. am i forgetting something obvious? Steamboat Willie doesn't turn out to be dead all along or anything does he? i've not seen it all the way through...
;)
I've actually never see "Caligari". Such a landmark, I know, but I need to check it out.
And I don't know about the twist ending thing. I'd have to think about it.
well i'm glad i didn't mention what the twist WAS!
and i have to admit...i've never seen the original nosferatu all the way through either...
and i call myself a vampire flick fan...
shame on me...
after you see Caligari, i recommend you check out Seigfried Kracauer's 'From Caligari to Hitler' and read about the origin of the story. it's quite something, one of those eery real life stories that gives a chill down the spine.
on a totally different note, have you ever seen Murnau's 'Sunrise: a song of two humans'? such a stunningly powerful movie.
I haven't seen the original "Nosferatu" - just the Herzog remake. I didn't like it all that much, but I'm not a big horror film fan.
I found the book on Amazon for $5.50, so I picked it up. Thanks for the recommendation!
I haven't seen "Sunrise" yet, but Scorcese went nuts over it in his mini-series (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305941122/qid=1133564956/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-0679074-3008835?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130) , so I bought an entire Fox box set just to get it. One of these days I'll check it out.
see i was going to suggest getting this: http://tinyurl.com/awz8h
which has an extract from it and is the book i read it from. now you are going to be more knowledgable than ME! another reason to recommend this book is the cover. whenever i pick it up i just stare and stare at Valentino in all those pearls... but it is obviously much better to have the Kracauer original - ah, amazon new and used, how i love thee!
i have never seen that scorcese doc though i know about it. oh i'm tempted but funds are slim...one day...
i went to see 'sunrise' at the cinema with a live band and singers. it worked at some points and not quite at others, but was a marvelous experience. they did things like 'in my room' & 'i only have eyes for you' which SHOULDN'T have worked but were magical!
it is based on 'an american tradegy' as was (i am sure you know) A Place in the Sun. but it takes the story somewhere else. incredible.
i'm not an out and out horror fan, contrary to the evidence here. i really dig vampire flicks though. they are on another level to 'horror' for me. it's more about myth and the psychological metaphor. Caligari works that way for me also - it's like a beautifully twisted mystery, like a dream.
I don't know which cover I bought - there was more than one edition of the book at Amazon, so I bought the cheapest one.
I'm not a particularly big vampire movie buff. I thought the Tod Browning "Dracula" was kind of dull, and have liked the many remakes and re-interpretations even less. I initially thought "After Dark" was kind of neat, but didn't wind up liking it when I saw it again on video.
yeh, never got the bela thing myself. far too hammy.
the original nosferatu is just so EERY and haunting and i don't know...despite the stylisation it burrows into my psyche as a 'this could be a REAL monster, this is what they'd LOOK LIKE and how they'd BEHAVE if they WERE real' thing. it's so dreamy and i can see that despite his hideousness you could really be mesmerised by that guy.
i loved the chris lee drac as a kid - thought him very sexy/scary. now i just see them as wildly camp and funny but i still LOVE Hammer Horror dracula so much (as evidenced on my site posting...ok i don't actually talk about dracula...).
i don't know if you guys over 'there' ever really got much of the Hammer Horror stuff because no americans ever seem to know what i am going on about, but you know who christopher lee and peter cushing are so you MUST have done!
of course it is the ingrid pitt movies that are really the business in the hammer canon.
I myself haven't seen any of the Hammer pictures (yet) - I know Cushing and Lee from the Lucas and Burton movies (how both grew up big Hammer fans, I'm sure). But rest assured, Hammer films have a cult of fans here in the U.S.
aha.
they are a treasure trove of 70s excessive rediculousness. just gorgeous!
i once had the pleasure of meeting Mr Tudor Gates (yes, his NAME) who wrote a load of them. his landlady was my boss. i knew i was in the presence of a great man. a great man who could spin a good feminine vampire tale.
Jeff, it looks like you forgot the Batman logo at the end.
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